How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

How has Sanskrit influenced modern Tamil language, particularly in terms of vocabulary?

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

How do scientists behave?

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Is it better for 2nd generation Western Muslims to marry someone from their parents' country or a western Muslim who was born and raised in the West?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

How do we greet in German, French, Spanish, and Italian?

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

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But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

What would you do if you found out that someone had broken into your home while you were sleeping?

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

What are some interests in sharing pictures of wives?

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

NOW…

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

CONCLUSION:

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Now here in this verse

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

I am like a fish out of water,

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Sain (a barber)

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

then who is there to know what happens without?

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Kabir (a weaver)

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!